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Have Your Say: Almost 100 new houses proposed for Pant and Llanymynech

As part of its Local Plan Review, Shropshire County Council has launched its Preferred Sites Consultation outlining proposals for new housing developments across the county, including 95 new houses in Pant and Llanymynech.

Excavators and dumpers arrive on site

The consultation sets out the preferred sites to deliver the scale and distribution of housing and employment growth during the period to 2036.

In Pant, a parcel of land along the main A483, to the north of the village, backing on to Penygarreg Lane, has been identified as the proposed site for 45 houses. In Llanymynech, land to the east of Barley Meadows has been earmarked for 50 houses.

The site in Pant is currently agricultural land and, as the consultation document acknowledges, faces a number of constraints as a location for housing development, such as water pressure issues, protected species and the local historic environment. Access to the A483, managed by Highways England, is also likely to be an issue, as 45 new houses is certain to see an increase in traffic.

The site in Llanymynech faces the challenges of existing accessibility issues along Station Road, where it is already congested with a weight-restricted bridge over the former railway line, as well as protected species issues and the local historic environment.

The consultation allows local people, businesses and other interested groups to have their say on these major proposals, and responses are invited in the form of a questionnaire via the Shropshire Council website: https://shropshire.gov.uk/get-involved/local-plan-review-preferred-sites-consultation/. The deadline for responses to the consultation has been extended to Friday 8 February 2019.

The full consultation document can be found here: https://shropshire.gov.uk/media/11266/00-preferred-sites-consultation-full-document.pdf. The Oswestry Place Plan Area document, which also includes plans for Kinnerley, Knockin and other local communities, can be found here: https://shropshire.gov.uk/media/11252/15-preferred-sites-consultation-oswestry-place-plan-area.pdf.

A consultation event for the Oswestry area is due to take place at The Marches School at 7pm on Tuesday 15th January 2019. This is a public meeting which anyone can attend and, as well as providing the opportunity to find out more about the housing plans for our villages, which will affect the future development of our communities, will allow local people to have their say.

This meeting will then be followed up with a discussion at the Llanymynech and Pant Parish Council meeting to be held on Thursday 24th January at 7.15 after which the Parish Council will prepare a response . This meeting will be held at Llanymynech Village Hall and there will be a short time for the public to ask questions.

Discussion

18 Responses to “Have Your Say: Almost 100 new houses proposed for Pant and Llanymynech”

  1. Interesting. I say interesting because for years our two villages have requested a bypass and nobody has been interested. Our MP only shows much interest when his seat is up for election, it takes months to get the street lighting fixed, someone might remember to tell us a day or two before they decide to close the road at nights for repairs, and the A483 racetrack that runs through our villages might get a cursory police speed check when enough people have shouted themselves hoarse about it.

    So, let’s face it, our opinions are generally considered an irrelevance. Until now that is, when suddenly our views seem to be of interest to the council. Or are they? I have to say I’m cynical.

    The council has an obligation to follow due process, but that does not oblige them to actually listen, and since our thoughts have largely been ignored for years by the council, I can’t see them showing any genuine interest in us now. In other words, if they can, they will force through their plans with no regard for our views just so long as they meet their building quota. And that’s the bottom line, they have a quota to meet and the feelings of the people of Llanymynech and Pant will almost certainly turn out to be insignificant.

    Posted by Chris Richards | December 19, 2018, 17:19
    • The consultation documentation is so large and complex, residents will try to understand and give up responding to the questions for the village.

      I have submitted my responses and would have liked to attached them to this response if I knew how.

      Out of the massed of documentation all you need is pages 1 for identity and page 7 and 8 for the Llanymynech and Pant questions

      Posted by Geoff Lowe | January 31, 2019, 23:22
  2. No further development in Pant/Llanymynech should be permitted until such time as the BY-pass has been implemented, traffic access on A483 at multiple junctions along this length of the A483 is already difficult and accidents along the length including Llynclys & Llanymynech Cross roads and Pannygarreg road itself are not unknown. We have been fobbed off/ignored by Shropshire Council/Highways England for too long on one of the longest running by pass campaigns in the West Midlands.

    Posted by Howard O. Jones | January 13, 2019, 16:24
    • We have been waiting long enough for a bypass for pant Llanymynech, over 50 years. Yet these new houses will add to the already congested aria.
      Now the time has come to say NO to new developments until a By- Pass has been built.

      Posted by John Meason | January 14, 2019, 19:31
      • Certainly no large developments until the Pant Bypass is in place. As a village we have an obligation to meet some of the demands for small development to handle population growth. BUT no developments that will change the character of our English country villages for ever. Why do so many New Residents choose Pant?. Has it something to do with the rural area and Character of our village ?.

        I have read through 100.s of pages of the Local Plan Reviews and found and scanned the Identity page and the LLanymynech and Pant Questions Submission pages that can be emailed to anyone that needs them to make their comments before February 8th 2019.

        Posted by Geof Lowe | February 1, 2019, 11:33
    • Well said … bypass definitely needed as very dangerous trying to get through Pant and Llanymynech

      Posted by Chris | January 14, 2019, 19:50
  3. Where will these new families be sending their children to school.There have already been people turned down for lack of space on attempting registration.
    Not to mention an already stretched local Surgery and excess traffic on a road not designed for such volume.

    Posted by Deb | January 14, 2019, 12:23
  4. I do not see any clear plans to address the water and sewage issues.
    The increase in traffic is surely going to worsen the accident blackspot at Llynclys crossroads and again I do not see any plan or forward thinking to address it.

    Just having a comment in the development plan that it is an issue is not in itself enough, some clarity required.

    Posted by John Furmanek | January 14, 2019, 12:48
  5. Schools, surgeries, hospitals – all becoming stretched to the limit and with the vast numbers of houses going up in Shrewsbury and Telford the only winners I can see are the councils with loads more Council Tax revenue.

    Posted by Tony Comley | January 14, 2019, 19:25
  6. see you all at The Marches tomorrow evening then 7pm. Be there!

    Posted by Ruth Allcock | January 14, 2019, 20:11
  7. I can’t believe as a working person, with a very busy life to hear today the filed consultation to put a housing estate up directly opposite my home. We are still classed a newcomers to the village, but we bought our home after visiting this lovely village over the past 20 years. We already compromised on the road but the biggest attraction for our home was the beautiful green woodland we look out to every single day. We watch the season change, the wildlife and the harvest of the land, why would people want to change this when there are many places in Shropshire which would benefit a housing estate, with space for families, cars and a much safer road. Shock doesn’t cover it.

    Posted by Amanda Jones | January 14, 2019, 20:35
  8. Are we in a Democratic Society or are our decisions under the control of a well financed Lobbyist group who put the interests of expected financial gains ahead of the responsible development of our community ?.

    Large developments are not good for rural villages, causing over extended use of the existing services. The gradual development of infill sites that are spread throughout the village would allow for a reasonable movement into the A483 traffic flow.

    The storm drains and the sewer system in the village of PANT are better suited to handle a free gravity fed system rather than the high capital investment and ongoing maintenance costs of sewer pumping stations.

    I question the reasoning of using Pennygarreg Lane as an access onto the A483 from such a large development site. The junction being a heavy density area where there is already traffic congestion entering the parking lot for the only shop and post office in the village.

    The compromise to this would be to access the A483 at the northern boundary of the village, moving the congestion area and resulting backlog of traffic to a different part of the village.

    The belief that the developers of a large housing development can be expected to cover the costs of an extended infra-structure of the surface water and sewer system is rarely achieved.

    Posted by Geoff Lowe | January 16, 2019, 23:45
    • Penygarreg lane is not a suitable access point for the development. The lane itself is single track, and not suitable to allow two cars to pass each other. Trying to exit penygarreg lane onto the A483 is dangerous at the best of times, especially when thoughtless drivers park near the exit to avoid parking at the shop. This plan was refused as few years ago, on the grounds on safety of access. The road is much busier now,and more dangerous, so should not be even considered.

      Posted by Christine rolls | January 18, 2019, 16:35
      • Well said! The problem of access in and out of Penygarreg Lane could have been eased many years ago when the powers that be were offered (By a local builder) the amount of land they needed to make the entrance/exit safe. Which they never took him up on!
        The lane itself is now also not fit for purpose thanks to the numbers of cars using it at greater speeds than they should.

        Posted by EddieWylde | January 26, 2019, 13:47
  9. This scheme should not be considered until a by-pass is built. Highways England is supposed to manage the A483 but have shown themselves incapable of managing a party in a brewery and should not have any say in this matter. The land in Pant is I believe a green band, how is it possible for someone to build on it.

    Posted by Roger Davies | January 18, 2019, 23:34
  10. Shropshire Local Plan Review Nov 2018

    The preferred site allocation PYC021 and development boundary shown in the review documents are inconsistent. Specifically:
    1. Para 17.46 p148 The map only shows the Western part of PYC021, not the Eastern part off Penygarreg Lane.
    2. Para 17.47 p149 The site area in the table is 1.89ha. Careful measurement of the two land areas in the “Long Term Potential SLAA Residential Sites” show the actual sizes to be: Western 0.95ha, Eastern 0.84ha. However, from actual satellite images on accurate geometric maps, the area clear of trees and hedges is actually: Western 0.71ha and Eastern 0.75ha. The land slopes significantly at the south end and near the trees which reduces this another 0.1ha leaving a practical 1.36ha. The shape of the narrow strip near the A483 will also reduce the capacity of housing assumed.
    3. The development boundary change is inaccurate only showing the western proposed change.

    Posted by ParryJones | February 7, 2019, 15:08
  11. I’m sure there are more suitable sites for building in pant as an alternative to the land on Pennygarreg Lane, the access is far to dangerous to access and exit and will only be made worse with extra traffic, development along side the A483 is the same.

    I would say there are more suitable sites on the left hand side as you exit pant towards Llanymynech, they would be built on lower ground and not so much impact on the landscape of the village being more tucked away.

    I think the infrastructure to underpin the village needs to be looked into before any planning decisions can be made, as the school is full, the local amenities are not adequate therefore people are travelling to town and this has a bigger inpact on the carbon footprint.

    Posted by Frances Edwards | February 8, 2019, 14:03
  12. Analysis of the Shropshire Planning Preferred Site – Pant PYC021
    The proposed high density housing estate development proposed for the land between the A483 and
    Penygarreg Lane and the substantial deviation from the established development boundary must be
    rejected. This development is unacceptable because it is inconsistent with the character of the village
    and will completely change the rural nature of both Llanymynech and Pant for residents and the
    thousands of people who travel along this major highway. Careful studies of other recent developments
    demonstrate that aesthetics are compromised by the economic pressure to squeeze as many homes
    into woefully inadequate spaces. As is clearly obvious in Telford, these densely packed containers for
    humanity quickly lose their fresh façade in the reality of 3-4 people living with dogs and children in close
    proximity.
    A housing development of the density proposed will attract a demographic, necessarily working, sharing
    similar daily commuting habits. In Pant, 45 new houses with two working people, most attempting to
    cross over to the north carriageway of one of the most dangerous roads in the country will be a sure
    recipe for disaster. As the closest work opportunities are in the Oswestry direction and the school for
    the children of these typically younger families is to the south, there will be a doubling of traffic through
    the village making the school run. It is extremely unlikely that residents will risk walking the narrow
    pavements to school with children. Studies of other developments appended to established rural
    villages demonstrate a negligent attitude to transportation and parking realities with narrow access
    roads clogged with too many cars. This creates a significant hazard for young children and emergency
    vehicles. The highways department is clearly concerned in their guarded acceptance of a single access
    point to the A483 and their fundamental assumption of “limited to a few homes”

    Posted by ParryJones | February 27, 2019, 10:33

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